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Thread: Christian Rock and Praise Musick. Where\'s the Depth?

Christian Rock and Praise Musick. Where\'s the Depth? Posted : 9 Aug, 2015 10:43 PM

Matthew 6:1 The Deception of Christian Rock Musick, with Zac Poonen https://youtu.be/On9zTgXTsSE He is right on, though I would argue that he fails to realize that our popular hymns were also not sang by Jesus and his disciples. In fact they were inspired by the compositional styles that were popular within the world during their time of writing. It is all about context, and again, there is little depth and experience within most Christian Rock let alone praise musick. It is fast food religion for those too uninspired to challenge and compare them selves next to scripture let alone exorcise the influence of the world out of them selves enough to be ministered to properly by Spirit. I find that I learn more from Pink Floyd\'s Dark Side of the Moon than I do in a generic praise song. What is there in to calling out Jesus\' name in public anyhow? The name has meaning and the name is but the surface of a deep and lifelong experience, a gradual growth and salvation. At least The Dark Side of the Moon speaks of the human experience, of the emptiness in hanging on to things of this world, of loss, regret and so forth. All those feeling that make us weak in Spirit which can then transform into aspiring towards Spirit; that which is eternal. Desperation is the English way. - Roger Waters I wonder if Job\'s infamous lament was turned into a song, would many insist that it was not Christian, or to be more precise, representative of the Hebrew faith? In fact, what if one were to abandon traditional musickal \"expression\" and instead of using guitars, drums, as well as popular and familiar sound scapes, one was to incorporate synthesizers and effects processors instead? What then?! Is that \"of the devil?\" Or is the devil right in front of our face but we embrace is because it is familiar and welcoming, but we shun the darkness in the light because it terrifies and challenges us? Job Curses the Day He Was Born 3 After this Job opened his mouth and cursed the day of his birth. 2 And Job said: 3 “Let the day perish wherein I was born, and the night which said, ‘A man-child is conceived.’ 4 Let that day be darkness! May God above not seek it, nor light shine upon it. 5 Let gloom and deep darkness claim it. Let clouds dwell upon it; let the blackness of the day terrify it. 6 That night—let thick darkness seize it! let it not rejoice among the days of the year, let it not come into the number of the months. 7 Yea, let that night be barren; let no joyful cry be heard[a] in it. 8 Let those curse it who curse the day, who are skilled to rouse up Levi′athan. 9 Let the stars of its dawn be dark; let it hope for light, but have none, nor see the eyelids of the morning; 10 because it did not shut the doors of my mother’s womb, nor hide trouble from my eyes. 11 “Why did I not die at birth, come forth from the womb and expire? 12 Why did the knees receive me? Or why the woman\'s chest, that I should suckle? 13 For then I should have lain down and been quiet; I should have slept; then I should have been at rest, 14 with kings and counselors of the earth who rebuilt ruins for themselves, 15 or with princes who had gold, who filled their houses with silver. 16 Or why was I not as a hidden untimely birth, as infants that never see the light? 17 There the wicked cease from troubling, and there the weary are at rest. 18 There the prisoners are at ease together; they hear not the voice of the taskmaster. 19 The small and the great are there, and the slave is free from his master. 20 “Why is light given to him that is in misery, and life to the bitter in soul, 21 who long for death, but it comes not, and dig for it more than for hid treasures; 22 who rejoice exceedingly, and are glad, when they find the grave? 23 Why is light given to a man whose way is hid, whom God has hedged in? 24 For my sighing comes as[b] my bread, and my groanings are poured out like water. 25 For the thing that I fear comes upon me, and what I dread befalls me. 26 I am not at ease, nor am I quiet; I have no rest; but trouble comes.”

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Thread: Christian Rock and Praise Musick. Where\'s the Depth?

Posted : 12 Aug, 2015 12:19 AM

The Problem with most Christian music is the tendency to accept anything as long as "the heart is in the right place"... which means we end up getting junk junk and MUCH more junk most of the time. There are GREAT Christian rock songs out there but are mostly hidden in a deluge of cringe-causing nonsense with a lot of the time no depth or any proper quality to it whatsoever. This is actually a regular insult heathens throw at us, that our music simply sucks.

Most of the older hymns should honestly be thrown out, they put you to sleep and have no value other than conformism. Hive minds are of no use to anyone other than slave-masters.

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Thread: Christian Rock and Praise Musick. Where\'s the Depth?

Posted : 12 Aug, 2015 06:32 AM

That's a message I have trouble driving into people's minds, and that's that "the heart can be corrupted" and can not be fully trusted in and of itself.

As for old hymns... well we at least got to preserve "Old Rugged Cross!" :)

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Thread: Christian Rock and Praise Musick. Where\'s the Depth?

Posted : 27 Aug, 2015 11:10 AM

Could you give an example for these hymns?

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Thread: Christian Rock and Praise Musick. Where\'s the Depth?

Posted : 7 Jan, 2016 09:10 AM

I can only post some video's and seminars about Christian Rock and other music. And the question if Christians should listen to them.
With quotes of people in the music industry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gEkGwxa0Ls&list=PLNomdEoen2NU3QS5OCJFhSclfNDTv4d6x
A 10 part seminar of Christian Berdahl a musician who found God and decided to dissect what music really does too people including the history.And where rock comes from
People in the music say its occult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evVy76D1IFk
Christian Rockers confess they are Atheist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cylmqqHfsoA

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